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Hippodamia tredecimpunctata
29.03.2009 01:51:47 30.03.2009 07:02:18 #11837 RAW CRW_4079.jpg Comments: 19 Харьковская обл., Безлюдовка, окр... 29.03.2009
13.11.2013 06:36:51 Arp
Yes, there are more ID-errors around with these. Most of the time it is easy enough, but when the black on the pronotum becomes extended in tredec. and notata the confusion kicks in ;o) I think the exact location of the spots behind the scutelar spot (and the way these merge) is also helpful.
Would be good if the notata could be renamed somehow. Cheers, Arp |
Hippodamia tredecimpunctata
29.03.2009 01:51:47 30.03.2009 07:02:18 #11837 RAW CRW_4079.jpg Comments: 19 Харьковская обл., Безлюдовка, окр... 29.03.2009
13.11.2013 05:03:22 Arp
Hi All,
> This ladybug is not present collection, I will remove this image. I think that would be a shame - this one very nicely shows the variability, especially when you have it next to your other more "standard" Hip.tre.. To me the ID from just photo is clear enough and Vitis seems to agree, so I think it's quite okay to rename it accordingly ;o) Of course, I don't know who is who in Russian entomologist, but if Vitis is an expert (s)he may want to have a look at the "septemmaculata" (linked above) that I would assume to be notata. Cheers, Arp |
Hippodamia tredecimpunctata
29.03.2009 01:51:47 30.03.2009 07:02:18 #11837 RAW CRW_4079.jpg Comments: 19 Харьковская обл., Безлюдовка, окр... 29.03.2009
13.11.2013 04:04:21 Arp
I would assume that both can be more or less reliably ID'ed from photo, but that somehow the photos got an incorrect name attached. If a Russian/regional expert takes a good (second?) look at both photos and agrees with me, I think you can assume the ID to be correct. If he/she disagrees, it would be good to see the actual specimen. For now I'm assuming the ID is wrong and that an expert could confirm that based on just the photos, same as I did.
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Hippodamia tredecimpunctata
29.03.2009 01:51:47 30.03.2009 07:02:18 #11837 RAW CRW_4079.jpg Comments: 19 Харьковская обл., Безлюдовка, окр... 29.03.2009
13.11.2013 03:33:46 Arp
Hi Boris, maybe ask the expert to have a second look - I really think it's Hip.tre. (we all make mistakes - I certainly do ;o)
Also, if you ask him anyway, maybe ask him to look at this image from this page. Obviously the specimen has been collected so it should be checked (but maybe it's a female?), but the pattern on the pronotum really looks like Hip. notata a lot more than Hip.sep. (hind corners of pronotum all black). The page is an excelent reference for images of Coccinellidae and being based on the collection of the Institute of Taxonomical Biology, Daugavpils it certainly has "authority", so it would be very bad if I'm correct and the beetle is a notata because many people will refer to this page for reliable comparisson. Sorry to bother you with this, but as they are Russian pages you may know much better who to contact about such issues :o) Thanks & Cheers, Arp |
Hippodamia tredecimpunctata
29.03.2009 01:51:47 30.03.2009 07:02:18 #11837 RAW CRW_4079.jpg Comments: 19 Харьковская обл., Безлюдовка, окр... 29.03.2009
13.11.2013 12:13:35 Arp
Hi Boris,
Are you really sure this is H.sept. ? I stumbled on the photo on this page: http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/loboda8.htm and came here looking for it. IMHO it looks much more like Hippodamia tredecimpunctata !?! The two can be very close - especially when the black pigment on pronotum and elytra is extended, but the shape of the black pattern on the pronotum and the way that the scutellar spot is _not_ extended backward and connected to basal spots in an inverted T shape (as would be usual on a darkish septemmaculata) to me indicates that this would be 13-punct. Cheers, Arp |
Oxythyrea funesta
20.01.2009 05:51:25 05.03.2009 04:29:06 #11147 RAW CRW_1227.jpg Comments: 4 < no date >
07.10.2012 03:45:03 Arp
Hi Boris,
First of all - HAPPY BIRTHDAY :o))) - I'll have nice drink on your health later tonight :-p This specimen (as well as some of the others) really looks like Oxythyrea cinctella (or maybe noemi???) - did the card with the specimen say where it was from? Cheers, Arp |
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Holcostethus sphacelatus
30.07.2009 04:10:31 31.07.2009 05:06:39 #14867 RAW CRW_3283.jpg Comments: 2 Харьковская обл., Волчанск, Ефрем... 29.07.2009
09.09.2012 01:01:19 Arp
Hi Barry, I don't think the nymph is a Holcostethus - my choice would be Neottiglossa sp. but you don't have the "sp." option in your species list yet ;o)
Cheers, Arp |
Apterygida albipennis
22.07.2008 04:05:41 24.07.2008 07:37:23 #8832 IMG_13580.JPG Comments: 4 г. Харьков, Лесопарк 22.07.2008
01.05.2012 11:43:58 Arp
Hi Boris,
If it is not possible to bind an image to genus only, I think that it would be a perfect idea/workaround to add Genus sp. to all genera. For some that will be overkill (if there is only one species in the genus), but in general it will be a good way to enable ID to genus level. For this ID: I really think the currently valid name is Apterygida media (Hagenbach 1822), which also makes sense seeing the publication dates. That said, I cannot be 100% certain of the ID here as I don't know all Ukrain/Russian species, and certainly not their nymphs, but the habitus, hairs (also on the forceps), development level of wingstubs etc are all typical for A. media. |
Apterygida albipennis
22.07.2008 04:05:41 24.07.2008 07:37:23 #8832 IMG_13580.JPG Comments: 4 г. Харьков, Лесопарк 22.07.2008
01.05.2012 01:48:24 Arp
Hi Boris,
Looks very much like Apterygida media (nymph) I tried adding an ID to genus for some pictures, but after specifying family and genus and pressing [Add] the new ID comes back at family level, not at genus level ... is this by design? |
Labia minor
06.08.2010 09:42:19 25.08.2010 10:10:04 #20132 RAW CRW_22431.jpg Comments: 1 Крым, Бахчисарайский р-н., с. Бог... 06.08.2010
29.04.2012 11:35:00 Arp
Adult female Labia minor (Linnaeus 1758), Spongiphoridae
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Schizotus pectinicornis
07.01.2012 10:56:58 09.01.2012 09:15:33 #22735 RAW CRW_9003_01.jpg Comments: 2 UA·Kharkiv·Kharkiv Харьков, Пятихатки, Лесопарк 07.01.2012
29.04.2012 11:24:05 Arp
For reference with ID: German info
Additionally you also have Pedilus but those look quite different: image |
Trachelipus
02.09.2007 05:49:07 12.11.2007 06:27:55 #6169 IMG_58170.JPG Comments: 6 < no date >
29.04.2012 11:06:48 Arp
Don't worry, it's not a big deal to me(!) But yes, coordinates printed with the location would be a helpful workaround :o)
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Trachelipus
02.09.2007 05:49:07 12.11.2007 06:27:55 #6169 IMG_58170.JPG Comments: 6 < no date >
29.04.2012 10:45:48 Arp
Howdy,
Okay, all one location ... (the maps don't work on my Linux-box ;o) 30.04.2012 01:26:16 - barry: If you find more Woodlice and would like me to try and get proper names I would love to see specimen from your region(s) - can't always guarantee that I will find a name quickly as I would probably have to visit at library at 200+km to find docs, but I would certainly try!
Don't feel obliged or anything, but I just had to ask ;o) Cheers, Arp |
Porcellio scaber
22.06.2007 02:55:48 14.11.2007 10:49:47 #1477 IMG_3553.JPG Comments: 1 22.06.2007
29.04.2012 10:37:52 Arp
Not too sure this would be P. scaber - it may well be another Trachelipus, but hard to tell from this single image.
Cheers, Arp |
Porcellionides
08.08.2008 12:57:01 23.08.2008 08:34:42 #9719 IMG_51610.JPG Comments: 1 < no date >
29.04.2012 10:35:43 Arp
Hi, this is a Porcellionides. It doesn't quite look like the P. pruinosus that I know from various parts of Europe and on Crimea there may be some other species that I have never seen. Certainly Porcellionides rectifrons is present, but I think it would be prudent to also take P. approximatus and maybe P. pica or even P. sexfasciatius(?) into account.
At the moment I can't do better than Porcellionides sp. - will have a look what I can find about the other species, but it may take a while. Cheers, Arp |
Trachelipus
02.09.2007 05:49:07 12.11.2007 06:27:55 #6169 IMG_58170.JPG Comments: 6 < no date >
29.04.2012 10:12:27 Arp
Hi,
Seems this is a set of three different individuals. All from one location? None of these are Armadillidium. Left and right are Trachelipus, images in center probably also, but less sure. I don't know the species from Ukraine, so I can't go to species from photo. If you wish for a better ID I would love to look at some specimen (if at all possible, even alife). Cheers, Arp |
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